JUST MY THOUGHTS

The Lineage Of Man

A Condensed Explanation...

The Sin We Inherit And The Way To The Kingdom

This page addresses questions - questions that are asked everyday by people from all walks of life.

These questions usually go unanswered and are most always answered according to a textbook answer that is straight from a doctrine or at least common beliefs associated with a particular doctrine. I will use the scriptures only. You are now in a "no spin zone." No doctrine, no spin, just scripture.

What is the great sin that we are reminded of? The great sin that engulfs us all from birth. Most of us are told we are born in and of sin. Many times the answer is addressed by using the story about the fall in the Garden. No details are given, only general suggestions that are of little help to the person who thirsts for truth and understanding.

I feel confident about this page with one exception. That one exception deals with the lineage of Cain, his wife and the lineage that was born of this union. The lineage of Cain is accepted to be that (lineage) of the lesser god, Satan. The reader may have another thought. That is good but this is my thought as evidenced by that which is taught in many or most doctrines/denominations.

I will use only what is written. No more, no less.

Be patient and struggle through these next few sentences. This must be covered but be patient so we can get to the point. Go slow and read carefully:) :)

From the beginning...

Eve was deceived by the serpent. After she was deceived, she convinced Adam that the forbidden fruit was good and harmless to eat. They both engaged that which was forbidden. We are told they ate of the fruit of the forbidden tree.

Genesis ^3:1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

 ²And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 ³But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 ⁴And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

 ⁵For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

 ⁶And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

This act of disobedience was the first known sin against God. We are told that God was displeased and banished them from the Garden. The garden-paradise that God created for HIS creation. They were sent from the Garden into the world, outside of the Garden.

Genesis 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

 ²⁴So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

After the fall of Adam and Eve... Cain was the first born of Adam and Eve. His brother, Abel, was the brother of Cain and the second born.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

 ²And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

Cain became jealous of Abel and killed his brother. God was unhappy with Cain for his evil deed.

 ⁸And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

The scriptures tell us that Cain was banished from the land.

Genesis 4: ¹⁴Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

 ¹⁵And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

¹⁶And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

¹⁷And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Take a break for a notation: I find it strange, that if only the offspring of Adam and Eve were the only people on earth, then why did God need to place a mark on Cain? Surely his brothers and sisters would know him. A mark would not be necessary and surely his own family would have known what he did to his brother. At least that is my reasoning. Therefore, I am led to believe there were other "beings" on earth. Sounds as though there were many others.

OKAY, back to business....

This son of Cain, Enoch, is not to be confused with the very good and Godly Enoch who was of the lineage of Seth, six generations from Adam. We have two distinct bloodlines here. The Godly lineage of Seth and the evil lineage of Cain. The descendant's names from each line are the same or very much alike. The lineage of Seth is found in Chapter five. I have published it here at the end of this page.

OKAY! We got through that.

All teachers repeat themselves, so bear with me while I reiterate... The scripture above tells us that Cain went to the Land of Nod and "knew" his wife. Who was she? Where did she come from? Was it Cain's sister? I do not read it that way. Remember, before Cain, there were only two other people created by God... ADAM AND EVE. Therefore, if you do not believe that there were already beings here on earth you must believe that Cain's wife was his sister or a very close relative. Were there really so many people on earth, who were born of Adam of Eve that God had to mark him to distinguish him from his own brothers and sisters?

If Cain's wife was his sister then where did the evil lineage slip in? Cain was the first born son of Adam. Adam was God's created being and we would assume that Adam's offspring would reflect the nature of Adam.... not so. Cain was evil. Remember? He killed his brother, Abel. He was a murderer. Evil.... Was this Adam's son? Or is there another answer?

Do you see my problem? An evil bloodline resulted from this union. Was it (only) from Cain. Was Cain's wife from another species which was already here before the creation in the garden? After all... Satan was cast out of heaven with 1/3 of the angels. Did they populate earth before the creation in the Garden of Eden which was created by God for HIS created beings.

*** Note: Some students of scripture believe that Eve had sex with Satan, who was referred to as "the tree of knowledge" and Cain was the product of the union. In other words, Eve was already impregnated by Satan, before she had sex with Adam. However, as I promised, I will stay with only that which is written... and it is written: Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

We know that Satan was in the Garden! Ezekiel, chapter 28 tells us that. It may be very rewarding for you to read that chapter after you finish this page... while it is fresh on your mind.

For your consideration, I am publishing a link at the end of this page for your consideration. (Thanks To Robert) I do not endorse the page but it is worth consideration and prayer.

For those who believe that scenario: Consider how important it was for Satan to seduce Eve... Eve was a created being of God. If Satan could seduce her and produce offspring it would (seemingly) destroy God's purpose for creating HIS own human race of a Godly line.... But remember, Satan never outsmarted God and never will. So don't let a teacher or preacher tell you that something went wrong and "God had to destroy it" or "flood it" to erase HIS mistake. He doesn't make mistakes! I must mention it here if I have not already; I strongly believe in a preadamic race of beings that was present on earth, who lived outside of the Garden of Eden. This may alarm some people but that in NO WAY violates or opposes scripture. So don't become self-righteous and think I am teaching heresy. There are many truths that simply are not touched upon. That is my direction and mission on this topic.

ALSO: Many people believe that the "tree" was a "system" or a "people" or a doctrine of belief, etc. I can see that theory! The serpent told Eve that if she "ate" of the tree she would be as a god, "knowing good and evil." Notice the small "g" not capital "G" as in the supreme God... This scripture can be interpreted many different ways, not only as a sexual encounter. Still figuring? Be careful here... some of the modern translations read "knowing the difference between good and evil." Maybe it's just me but I see a large difference between the implications of "knowing" good and evil and "knowing the difference between good and evil." Also, in bible terms, to "know" means "to have sex with." You can interpret this many different ways, so I just "read around" the statement and hope I will be shown in the Spirit, if necessary for me to know. Do you suppose the truth is resting under a rock, in a jar or on a shelf somewhere? Maybe so! The "rest of the story" is probably out there somewhere or maybe "they" just burned the truth?

Whatever happened, you can count on the fact that Satan did not outsmart God and it has all happened exactly as God intended. I believe I understand the outcome and the reason for allowing Satan to pollute a part of God's creation. You see, the seed that would eventually produce Jesus was present in Eve and it was God's plan that HIS Son, Jesus would defeat Satan. Obviously, all of the lives and experiences that would happen between the Garden and the end of this age had to be just as has been played out. The end result and plan, will be that an "elect few" will enter the Kingdom of God, through freedom of choice and willingness to serve our Lord throughout eternity.

Thus far 6,000 years have passed... a mere moment in God's time. Soon Jesus will return and bring "home" those who have chosen to receive HIM as Lord and freely serve HIM. The rest of this page will further make this clear. For now I offer this thought; Satan probably didn't consider that The Holy Spirit of God would be the father of Jesus. As I said, it is just as it was planned by the Creator. Don't believe for one moment that God is capable of making a mistake.

Note: As you read this page please understand that is not sinful to seek the truth that is not recorded or taught. I am simply filling in the blanks with possibilities. I believe the scriptures as they are written but some things are left unclear, unexplained or simply edited out. I read the scriptures for clues to that which has been withheld from us. Did they edit it out at the Council at Nicea? Constantine and his group of Bishops determined what would be included and what would be left out of the canonized text we know as the bible. Remember, at this meeting they allowed pagan holidays and festivals to become a part of the text so I do not consider that group to be entirely holy. Research it for yourself, you may be as disappointed as I was. Christmas and Easter are two of the holidays we came to accept and adapt them to meet our Christian beliefs but they were originally pagan holidays.

Another Note: Do not confuse the creation of earth with the creation of the Garden of Eden. In my opinion the earth is billions of years old. The Garden and God's Adamic Man is 6,000 years. It appears to me that those who say they have evidence that the earth is only thousands of years old are confusing the evidence and results of Noah's global flood where mountain ranges were formed and there was a tremendous upheaval of earth and the land masses. You may be interested: www.john33.com/earth-age

Back to business...
I can only reason that there was another species of beings here on earth, outside the Garden, that was not of our God, as a result of a rebellion or a falling away from God, the creator of all... Cain took a wife from this species and the ungodly line of Cain emerged... Those are my thoughts and reasoning from what is written. The result was a race of beings that were the lineage of Cain, whose father was Satan and Cain's wife who was of the lineage of Satan. Talk about evil! Both sides were of Satan.

When you think about this possibility, it may make you better understand "salvation" or the word "SAVED." I'll write more about that in another report but for now understand that we are being "saved" from another entity's plan... we are not being saved from a plan designed by our God. Make sense?

Let's get on with the report...

In the 6th chapter of Genesis we are told that a population explosion took place. The printed word tells us that "the sons of God took earth women to be their wives."

Genesis 6:²That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Some students of scripture say that the "Sons of God" were of the Godly Lineage of Seth. Others say they were fallen angels. At this point and to make the point of this page it is not important which is correct. The point is this; the crossbreeding of the lineage was polluted. We are taught that this angered God to the point that HE destroyed the world by flood to destroy these crossbred monsters. The "crossbred" being a part of the lesser god or how ever you chose to believe. Any way you see it, we are taught that God did not like the product of the breeding... so HE chose to destroy them all. He told Noah to build a boat and save himself, his wife, Noah's three sons and their wives. HE was going to cause a global flood and kill the crossbred humans. These monsters were beyond saving. They were pure evil and of Satan. They had to be destroyed.... Flood time. All God's plan to save HIS people. I totally believe that report except for the part about God being "angry." I think this must be a translation problem? God does not have the traits of flawed human beings... anger is a human trait and after all it was all part of HIS plan. I do not believe HE was angry because HIS plan came to pass. I believe the crossbred, evil beings had no part in HIS plan so he disposed of them as planned. Much the same as hell is used... to dispose of evil spirited human beings and the fallen angels... including Satan. ALL OF THIS IS HIS PLAN TO SAVE US.

This may come as a shock to the New Agers who teach that a kind, loving God would not destroy them.

(Note: God was not cruel when HE destroyed every living thing by way of the flood... They were monsters... evil beings... nothing to salvage or save. Destruction was the only solution. I have an opinion as to why it all happened like this. We can be sure it was no accident. God is perfect and HIS plans, all of them, are perfect and unfolding just as HE designed them. I believe I understand and intend to write a complete explanation soon. Back to business now)

He chose Noah because Noah was the ONLY human left on earth that was "perfect in his generations." That is to say he was not crossbred with the evil bloodline. Genesis 6: ⁸But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. ⁹These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

That last paragraph you just read is the basis for understanding. Read it again and be sure you understand why bloodline is so important and so many biblical accounts deal with bloodlines and choosing the proper wife for the biblical patriarchs.

Many believe that the evil bloodline was that of Cain... and the "Sons of God" were the Godly lineage of Seth. Seth was the third born child of Adam and Eve and replaced Abel. Seth was "exactly like Adam."

Others believe the evil bloodline was that of the fallen angels and they had sexual relations with earth women of either the line of Seth or Cain. Seth being the Godly one and Cain being the father of the evil line. I still say it is not important which is correct... at least for the point I am making here on this page.

Here's my point...
You see... The polluted bloodline still came through the flood. Noah was the ONLY human who was perfect in his lineage so his sons, who were by Noah's wife, were not of perfect lineage because their mother's DNA was polluted. Remember, Noah was the only man on earth who was perfect in his lineage.

OKAY! The polluted DNA continued after the flood. Sort of a replay of the Garden experience. That means that you and I are imperfect and are of evil bloodlines. That is the sin. All humans are of the evil DNA which makes us unsuitable to coexist with God in HIS Kingdom. That is the "sin" of which we are born. Simply stated; in our present form we are not suitable for God. Therefore, we must become a "NEW CREATURE." We must become a "new creation," a creation that is of God.

How is that achieved? Jesus provides the answer...
Jesus said there is only one way.... John 3:3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.”

We must be "born again" of the Spirit of God. We become a new creation. We are a new creature. We are no longer our old self. It is that simple. Jesus told us and we can read it in John 3:3.

Now we must conduct our lives as such. Strive to be like Christ... or... Christ-like... another way of saying "Christian."

2 Cor 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

When we receive Christ we become a new person. We assume His identity. He has taken our sin. We experience the new life of Christ that flows from within us.

That is how we get back home... to the Kingdom of God.
This is the beginning of understanding. The rest of this site is dedicated to explaining how this is achieved according to the plan of salvation which is designed by God and made possible through HIS Son... We know HIM as "Jesus." HE has always been with God in eternity. All things were created by HIM when HE was in Heaven . He came here in the flesh, as a human, and leads us into the Kingdom. This is the beginning. All things are unfolding exactly as God has designed them. We can only pray for understanding HIS "will" and plan for each of us.

Salvation is a personal thing. It may happen to each of us differently. However, the end result is the same for each of us. We become "one with God" and are led by HIS Holy Spirit. "Saved," "Born Again," "Begotten" are interchangeable terms meaning the same thing.

Wishing you the best and good reading.

Here's the link I promised http://stargods.org/WhereDidEvilComeFrom.htm

Your friend,

John
www.john33.com

6-14-10

Below: The lineage of Seth to Noah... The Godly line. This is not to be confused with the line of Cain.

Genesis 5

 ¹This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

 ²Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

 ³And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

 ⁴And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

 ⁵And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

 ⁶And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:

 ⁷And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ⁸And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.

 ⁹And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:

 ¹⁰And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ¹¹And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.

 ¹²And Cainan lived seventy years and begat Mahalaleel:

 ¹³And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ¹⁴And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.

 ¹⁵And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:

 ¹⁶And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ¹⁷And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.

 ¹⁸And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:

 ¹⁹And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ²⁰And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

 ²¹And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

 ²²And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ²³And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

 ²⁴And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

 ²⁵And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.

 ²⁶And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ²⁷And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

 ²⁸And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

 ²⁹And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

 ³⁰And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

 ³¹And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

 ³²And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

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